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A question about Harborcoat
Does anyone know the exact lyrics of this song?
I can't find Mill's lines to this song anywhere at all, it's almost like the online lyric world denies that this is a duet. I'm not sure if this is the right section to post this, so I apologize in advance. |
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
It's okay, I've posted in wrong sections too!
![]() Well, I don't remember Mike doing much singing on this song, but it has been a while... www.remrock.com should have the lyrics, but not sure about Mike... Old boy didn't sing as much on Reckoning...
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
I hope this helps you out.
They crowded up to Lenin with their noses worn off A handshake is worthy if it's all that you've got. Metal shoes on wood push through our back There's a splinter in your eye and it reads "REACT" They shifted the statues for harboring ghosts. Reddened their necks, collared their clothes. Then we danced the dance till the menace got out. She gathered the corners and called it her gown. She said: Please find my harborcoat, can't go outside without it. Find my harborcoat, can't go outside without it. They crowded up to Lenin with their noses worn off A handshake is worthy if it's all that you've got. Metal shoes on wood push through our back There's a splinter in your eye and it reads "REACT," R-E-A-C-T Please find my harborcoat, can't go outside without it. Find my harborcoat, can't go outside without it. They shifted the statues for harboring ghosts. Reddened their necks, collared their clothes. Then we danced the dance till the menace got out. She gathered the corners and called it her gown. She said: Please find my harborcoat, can't go outside without it. Find my harborcoat, can't go outside without it.
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
What is it about? References to lenin are obvious but I always got a Boston Tea Party kinda vibe from it.
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
Towards the end of the song Mills sings entirely unique verses. If you listen to the song at a louder than usual volume you can hear it.
As for the meaning of the song, I have a feeling that it's about losing a loved one. The whole security blanket feeling of: "Please find my harborcoat, can't go outside without it." The feeling that it's a deceased loved one I get in particular from the line: "They shifted the statues for harboring ghosts." Also, the line: "There's a splinter in your eye and it reads "REACT"" Is a biblical reference. |
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
Some of the most bizarre lyrics ever written.
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
Originally Posted by Mr. Cuyahoga
Some of the most bizarre lyrics ever written.
And best. I love the song!
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
Does it really need to mean anything?
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
This video makes it clearer to recognize Mills singing completely seperate lyrics:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofLG...related&search= |
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
Originally Posted by Metsfan980
This video
is now on my myspace profile ![]() yes. i am a nerd ![]()
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
I thought the song was about communism....
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
Originally Posted by Metsfan980
Towards the end of the song Mills sings entirely unique verses. If you listen to the song at a louder than usual volume you can hear it.
Yeah, Mills does sing a few different refrains in this song. It starts not even a minute into the song, before they've even sung one chorus. Even during the chorus, he's singing his own thing. The lyrics posted above and the ones you can find online don't even make mention of what he's saying. I wish I could be of more help, but it's hard to make out exactly what he's singing.
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
They shifted the statues for harboring ghosts.
Reddened their necks, collared their clothes. Then we danced the dance till the menace got out. This always struck me, personally, as a reference to hanging or lynching of some sort... The whole song to me, just generally, has a vibe of a force of some sort in town taking over a place, and others that feel they must hide themselves in some way to protect themselves from them and/or it. Very generally but still (even years later!) refining my ideas about it. The first line of Harborcoat must be one of the most intriguing lines written for any song i've ever heard. I agree. |
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
Originally Posted by World
They shifted the statues for harboring ghosts.
Reddened their necks, collared their clothes. Then we danced the dance till the menace got out. This always struck me, personally, as a reference to hanging or lynching of some sort... The whole song to me, just generally, has a vibe of a force of some sort in town taking over a place, and others that feel they must hide themselves in some way to protect themselves from them and/or it. Very generally but still (even years later!) refining my ideas about it. The first line of Harborcoat must be one of the most intriguing lines written for any song i've ever heard. I agree. For me this song is about losing the love of your life. For the singer he (or she) is left with one object that so dearly reminds them of their love that they can't go anywhere without it. In the case of this song, it is their harborcoat. Here's an actual essay online that agrees with sentiments and goes really indepth with the song: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acr...142/rrlyr3.html |
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
I see what you're saying in your interpretation..,. i think it actually kind of jibes with mine a bit, a loss, of some sort, of life ... there are so many ways to look at these verses and find different images in them .... i thought there are some very interesting observations in this essay, i will be looking at this a bit more!
... to explain where i'm coming from, I'll start with this: They crowded up to Lenin with their noses worn off A handshake is worthy if it's all that you've got. Metal shivs on wood push through our back There's a splinter in your eye and it reads "REACT," R-E-A-C-T Ok. "They crowded up to Lenin with their noses worn off". Is it this way, or could it be other ways, i.e. They crowd, dead, up to Lenin with their noses worn off? Is it "worn off", or is it "warn off"? With my particular accent i pretty much pronounce these words the same. Is it a "handshake", or is it a "hand shake"? A lot of times I start with words- since they're not written by Michael anywhere that i'm aware of, a lot of times for me everything's open to interpretation. Is it Lenin, is it Lennon? Or some other poetic use? Hardest part of the song for me... and it really might alter my whole idea w/out this part, and yet actually could indeed be the most clear and/or literal part of the song- but there it is... I think "metal shivs on wood", something is happening, knives, perhaps, threatening a person or persons, the "we/our". And someone, a third party, "you", is reacting, judging someone, this "we/our", without first considering if "you" has any right to. Or, it could be some re-enactment of something that's happened in the past, to re-act, a scene repeating itself... So there's this impending feeling of something charged and dangerous already to me. "They shifted the statues to harboring ghosts"- i envision this as cueing off of some sort of lingering danger i already pick up from the first verse. To me, "they" are responsible for threatening "we/our" with the shivs- so "they" have shifted the statues- to me, people frozen with fear, statuelike- in essense they shift them to ghosts- and get rid of them. "Harboring" here could pass as haunting (to me), remembering (like harboring a grudge), rather than sheltering..."Reddened their necks, collared their clothes/close"- it could be a play on 'redneck', i agree, but with the following sentence about collaring, more hanging/lynching, just the meaning the way i see it . And with the sentence about the menace, it adds to an idea of something/someone dangerous. "She" gathering her corners and calling it her gown....perhaps about hiding in the shadows of corners when outside and calling it her gown in her imagination? not sure... "Please find my Harbourcoat/can't go outside without it"- harbor to me looking for something to shelter (in this context here) this we/us, and/or "her", from being outside, where the danger is, from who(m)ever "they" are. Again, how i envision it, and how i explain it, might seem a bit divided, not always easy to put the thoughts down...from my perspective, attempting to explain with a semi linear approach, i think, derived from various impressions i might feel. |
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
...and looking this over, anyone that can follow halfway clearly what i'm trying to say, has my admiration :O
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
[QUOTE=remrules]I hope this helps you out.
They crowded up to Lenin with their noses worn off A handshake is worthy if it's all that you've got. Metal shoes on wood push through our back There's a splinter in your eye and it reads "REACT" ************* I think it's metal shiv... |
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
Welcome to the forum, Rella!
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
Michael has previously described it as being a rewrite of Anne Franks diaries, but then they played it on one of the nights I was in Dublin, & he introduced it as being a song about Lillian Hellman. Which fits the Communist themes I guess.
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Re: A question about Harborcoat
Yes and on the Dublin version he clearly sings (and refers to while intro-ing the song)
"Then we ditched the books with the middles cut out" Instead of "we danced the dance til' the menace got out" I too would be curious to know the back up vocals to the chorus which Mike & Bill sing (at least from that Rockpalast vid) JGR |
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